Curse

mazza558 · Jun 30, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Surely there's no harm in keeping perma-SF if it can be prevented from farming ectos?

E.g

"Signet of Disenchantment" - Functionality changed to "Next time target foe avoids an attack, that foe loses 2 enchantments"

Alex the Great · Jun 30, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

that would be cool with me. i like using my perma sin for odd things, like farming collectable items and such.

Murmel · Jun 30, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Yeah, wouldn't bother me that much either, always have my W/Rt or 600/Smite

Panais · Jun 30, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

u do realise that will throw the whole games balance(that little that exists0 back to hell right.
thats like the ursan of signets.
/not signed

R.Shayne · Jun 30, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I like changing character and places I farm often so don't want the permasin nerfed but at the same time I have no problem running A/Me permasin (might take some time to get re-adjusted if they nerf Shadow Form). There is a whole list of places the permasin can farm under build talk. One of my favorite farms is the raptors. If trying to up wisdom this place is great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazza558

"Signet of Disenchantment" - Functionality changed to "Next time target foe avoids an attack, that foe loses 2 enchantments"

They are already several skills that can end the permasin ecto farm so no to this skill change.

Tom Swift · Jun 30, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panais

u do realise that will throw the whole games balance(that little that exists0 back to hell right.
thats like the ursan of signets.
/not signed

how would it do that? There are plenty of counters in the game and for those areas that don't have counters the loot isn't all that great anyway. I get the feeling people who think it is overpowered or some kind of god mode haven't bothered to try it outside of UW. It is no more powerful in the rest of the game than any of the other farming builds.

I like the perma sin. bBt I think it is overpowered for ecto farming.

N1ghtstalker · Jun 30, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

my sin can do perma
and i don't use her for ecto farming
it's boring and mindless grinding

neighto · Jun 30, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

lol i made a sin to farm with.. but low and behold.. im up to 650k exp without dying.. so my sin has turned into a survivor title char.. so no farming for me

absolutcrobi · Jun 30, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

uh signet of disenchantment CAN remove SF now, it might just take one or two times to do it if they have a cover enchantment, but still its not totally godmode.

Squishy ftw · Jun 30, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

The build can be fun to play, not just to farm ectos, as that gets boring pretty damn fast.

Feanixxx · Jun 30, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

I've been having fun with my permie-Sin; I've ran to most of Prophs, soloed Galrath and Sanctum Cay, tried every mission and quest I can solo. Some I fail, so I'll try different killing skills, some I succeed but ... I've been having *fun* with a three-year old game - what's not to like?

Ate of DK · Jun 30, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Before Perma-SF: My assassin was a 2 year old mule that completed Factions only.

During Perma-SF: I did a couple of runs because my Assassin finaly has some use.

After Perma-SF: My assassin does what she can do best... be a mule again and wait for the 3rd birthday present to earn me even more gold.

Conclusion:
Without perma-SF my assassin is without a job and I won't play GW on her.

Yawgmoth · Jun 30, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Farming ectos is not the biggest problem, it's game balance that matters. This is a farming build far more efficient and reliable than anything else, for almost everything that can be farmed.

It's ridiculously overpowered.

Aggroing whole large areas carelessly and just nuking them with no skill involved is clearly a degenerate way of playing the game.

Allowing a God Mode skill to be maintained with no downtime is a terrible mistake by Anet and must be fixed. SF needs a radical change in functionality, so it can't be maintained permantently, with all options like Glyph, Paradox and Arcane Echo taken care of.

romeus petrus · Jun 30, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

/signed for any nerf that will prevent permaSF from farming ectos.

Rexsis Kai · Jun 30, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

/signed

SF needs to be nerfed, and people would see that if they were not so like "MUST MAKE MORE MONEY, MUST FIND MORE ECTOS" but they are all blind to that because they would all cry if their precious "GODMODE" skill was nerfed.

doudou_steve · Jun 30, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01

ahhhhhh let's not turn this into a " Nerf SF please!!!!" Thread.

mazza558 · Jun 30, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

The reason I made that suggestion is that presumably Anet is happy with 55 Monks and other similar builds farming ectos. That change, given to the enemies would surely only restrict permasins as the 55 monk takes all hits, just reduces their effectiveness.

What I hope Anet do is only nerf SF on the Chaos Planes, as it's a pretty fun way to farm/get the cartographer title IMO.

Skyros · Jun 30, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

any skill that lets you be permanently invincible needs to be re worked/thinked.

/notsigned

assassins have other powerful builds to let them wreck and destroy PvE (Mobieus+Death Blossom, Scythe Sins yea yea?)

Twonaiver · Jun 30, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

this threads only exist not cuz of the build been overpowered or cuz people are dumb farming users, now only cuz ecto prices are dropping like stones at a lake, and so many old farmers have too many of them and a limit to gold storage, people with that kind of money are pitfull people, this is not capitalism, and the desperation is beautyfull to see.

(insert laugh here)

i say let sf farmers have theyr grind and get theyr gold.

Pesi · Jun 30, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

I dont care about money no more, and endless farming for cash aint even fun.
I have played my sin as perma a couple of times to farm rare golds in cantha, those that only drop in particular places.
just to get myself goodies cos thats so much fun than buying them

I dont give a living sh*t if they nerf uw or not, If everyone get obsidian armors doesnt matter to me, stuff doesnt include skill.
And Zkeys are the new high end market anyway.